Has anyone posted any videos of the Birmingham protest yet? I've seen one or two but they were real short (short but good .. so not complaining) However, I was wondering if anything longer was filmed?

I saw lots of people taking pics and am trying to find those pix also. Any ideas where I might look?

BTW ... I have a strong feeling that there was at least one person who was possibly a troll taking pictures yesterday.

My husband took loads of pix and has been sorting thru them and will also eventually post them, As we've been going through them we've also been studying them quite diligently to see if the (possible) troll/s can be seen/identified.

This particular guy just looked out of place and didn't seem to 'connect' to anyone really; he was just sidling up to people and taking quick pix, especially of me (which creeps me out in light of what happened to my bro in LA)!!

I've been advised by my brother that since I've been identified (on Enturbulation) as being his sister (who the Co$ views as of one of the 'leaders' of Anonymous) I can therefore assume that I will now be 'under the Co$ radar', which obviously means that I have to be uber cautious and vigilant.

There are plants/trolls on almost every Anonymous related forums (I've been told this by very reliable sources) so I think this is a good reminder to everyone to be prudent and cautious about not being too 'open' with regards to sharing and exchanging info with each other and also not getting lulled into a false sense of security, thereby innocently dropping any pertinent info into conversations via posts.
Paranoid? Possibly. Cautious and vigilant? DEFO! ;)

Very good point. I saw several nonAnon walking through us with cameras held low as they recorded or took photographs, warned a few maskless to keep their backs turned as one walked past.

My paronoia is so great that even when realising a fellow anon was someone I knew elsewhere, we both avoided mentioning it for the rest of the day to be safe.

I filmed one panning shot of the area around in a circle, but it has yet to be uploaded.

Aye, I had two people come up to me and ask me to take my mask off for a photo, I declined rapidly. Also had one man just standing there recording a video of me and my pal as we got there. ~ I'll be remaining vigilante next month >_>

you know i didn't really think of it but now its been mentioned i've had a few people ask if i could lower my mask cause they can't hear/ understand or even they found it intimidating (yet show no outward signs of such) - i just spoke slower, clearer and explained why it was worn in the first place.... other than i think its made of win and awesome.

amused at some chav who said to his mates he'd of loved to pull my mask off (my V mask at this point), and on his way back i casually asked if it was because he'd lost his - to which he just sort of... sulked away...

Kinda scary, really. We've all seen the vids of the Scilons bullbaiting techniques, and the in-your-face videoing, but this type of stuff creeps me out. I find it disconcerting that ANY member of the CO$ could infiltrate our group via the forums and protests themselves. For all any of us know, any of us could be a plant; anonymity is a double edged sword indeed.

Note the saying "Familiarity breeds contempt" - trust is a good thing, but it is earned, not given away. Stay vigilant, stay focused on the goal, be observant of people's behaviour at the protests and on the forums, and most of all, stay Anon.

There were several members of the public I saw that were taking photos, most seemingly interested in the whole thing, and at least one guy saying something along the lines of "I love this kind of thing, any chance of some pictures?" Those, like that guy, that were obvious about it, I didn't mind too much.

It was the ones that were attempting to make it look like they weren't taking photos or recording us that made me think.

Oooh, that reminds me. A young lady asked me about what we were doing after I had given her a leaflet, we talked about the protest and then she asked if it would be okay if she took photographs of the next protest for her collage project.
She seemed alright, and I said it should be okay as it was no different then a member of public photographing us. I told her to still seek permission first and make sure everyone was okay with it.

yeah, the ones sneekily taking photos were those I did not trust.

How about when we were talking to the Scilon security guard and the Scilons were poking camera phones over the window at us? Ooh I loved it, posed and waved for them :)

But trust me .. they DO and they WILL infiltrate any of the forums that are affiliated with Anonymous ... that's what they have the OSA for.
I realize it all sounds very theatrical and very 'Mission Impossible" type of stuff, but for those of you who are new to discovering the evils of the Co$, this is all very, very real, so be really diligent and cautious. This is not fun and games .. if you play with fire carelessly, you'll eventually get burned, so really, be warned.The CO$ has a saying: "attack...never defend" and they have no scruples. That pretty much sums it/them up.

For those of us who know (and have known for a long time) what their basic MO is it should come as no surprise what levels these creeps will stoop to.

Sure, it's easier to trust the young, innocent college/university student type that asks to take your picture for her/his next term paper/thesis ... but remember what happened to Paulette Cooper when those young women showed up at her door under the guise of petitioning for the farm workers and then proceeded to steal her stationary (which of course had Paulette's finger prints on it)

They have no limits, they have no boundaries. They have a 'fair-game' policy that can just about apply to anyone/anything they want it to.
I guess you use your own intuition and judgement in the end, but don't ever forget what these people are capable of.

Just my opinion of course!

Laters taters! ;)

I had one guy who chatted with me for a while then asked if he could have my photo. Given that pretty much my entire head was covered, I agreed. I think he was just an interested photographer, though, not an actual Scilon.

spotted some bloke in a hat and sunglasses, with a beard, towards the end of the protest who was taking photos. He apparently noticed when I pointed him out, and just turned around and left.

See I always had most of my face covered when asked to take my mask off I just lowered it so I was still covered.
My girlfriend also only ever got herself "uncovered" when noone was about.

Hopefully nooe will get Fair Gamed.

Next time I'll make my mask a bit more bearable (bigger mouth hole! :P)

Even when eating, if you have a mask, cover your eyes, eye identification is a common theme.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKXdxU4897A

You could say... eyedentification?

+10 interwebs

I laughed. :P

Don't think anyone else did, deary...Although, can't blame the guy, he tried...

???

I laughed at "eyedentification" as such a bad pun.

Oh, at it not with it...okay, I'm sorry...god I'm mean to you, sorry again

Less sorry, moar cake! (and icecream plz)

At half 12? Sounds genius! =D Or one of those ice cream cakes...they're good, I have one with dragon scales...

Anyways, I'm getting distracted! Back to the point at hand! Youtube and our defence, I believe.

Never defend - Always Attack?

I think that while it's certainly true that the Co$ has a bigger core following and ultimately has more 'power' in the US, don't think for one minute that they don't have their watchdogs/OSA ops in every major city throughout the world.
Don't forget that one of the first Co$ headquarters was set up in the UK when Mr Hubbard first started this crazy cult.

Don't forget that the Co$ have just bought a multi-million pound brand new HQ in Moseley .. why do you think that they're doing that?
They're doing it because their popularity is gaining momentum here in the UK ... more people to sucker in = more money = more POWER.
If they're going to invest their time money and resources into setting up a massive HQ here it can only mean one thing and that is all the fair-gaming, all the fraudulent practices, all the bullying and coercive tactics that they use (and get away with) will coming right along with it.

Don't think for one minute that the Anonymous forums over here aren't already being trolled BIG TIME . Don't think for one minute that they haven't already been singling out the 'leaders', the most loyal, most willing to speak out and speak loud; the 'ringleaders'. It's those of us who aren't afraid that they'll be most interested in shutting up. It's the truly committed Anonymous members that they'll be looking for.

How do they do this? By sending their plants, their trolls, their OSA ops into the protest rallies. By having them sign up to forums such as this. By having them befriend anyone of us to gather as much info as they can in order to build up dossiers on them, on Anonymous as a whole. When they think you have been data-minded sufficiently, they'll move onto the next one of us on their list. How do they gather these lists on us? By taking pictures of you when we protest, by processing your photographed face and the info gained by the plants on forums until they come up with a match.
They can (and will) find where you live easily, by using your computer as the first step (your ISP provider to begin with and from there it's easy .. well, easier than you think)

It's easy to say, for example, "Fair-game?" "Never happen in the UK, wouldn't be allowed to" Trust me, every single day things happen in the UK that shouldn't be allowed, but still they happen.

Everyone has a price ... if the top of police (MI5?), just for example, was offered a large amount of money to do something he most definitely shouldn't (legally) do, he might think twice about it when a lot of money is waved in-front of his face.
It's not just in the US where corruption is rife ... it's in this country too. Money talks.

Sorry for the rant ... I just want you all to be aware that this is serious stuff. It's good to retain humor and irony, playfulness and goofiness, because it's that attitude that will help us win this battle. But please don't think that there's not a dark, sinister side to all of this, because there is.
Some outspoken critics of the Co$ from years ago are still being trolled. Just look at Shawn Lonsdale, Paulette Cooper, Graham Berry (my brother's attorney) Andrew Morton, all but just a few that are still under the Co$ radar. And now I'm under their radar too.

I guess everyone uses their own judgment in the end, but it's always good to heed some free advice!



;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise:_A...rized_Biography

A must read for everyone. It speaks volumes about who and what the Co$ is really all about. :wacko:

Be vigilant, yes, but on the other hand there are only one or two OSA people in each org, and for the most part they want to keep their ordinary members AWAY from forums like this. Anonymous has them massively outnumbered.

Lots of people do projects about cults for school, college, etc. Why not? It's an interesting topic. If you help them then a whole class of people will learn something. If they really are Scn plants, they will reveal it in the way they talk about the subject, if you know what to look for. A Scientologist would never say, for example, that L Ron was a drug addict: they wouldn't be allowed to THINK that. If you have doubts, get them to read some upper level OT material. If they're on The Bridge to Total Bankrupcy. they'll be afraid of seeing "out gradient" material since they'll have to do hours and hours of review auditing to "repair" the damage.

Yes, I agree about students doing projects about cults, etc can only be a good thing, and to help inform them by collecting pertinent and helpful information regarding cults is probably the best way of educating them with regards to what to look out for, what to be wary and cautious of, how one can get 'suckered' in, etc.

My comment about the college student that asked for a photo and more info, etc. was only to highlight an example of what tactics the Co$ can (and often do) use when attempting to 'out' a member of Anonymous, or when trying to infiltrate an organization (Anonymous is the one I'm referring to mostly, but certainly it applies to ANY organization that is attempting to bring awareness and to shed light on the the illegal, bullying, coercive tactics and hidden agendas of the Co$, etc)
I made a direct example of how they do this by referring to what they did to Paulette Cooper: they sent a young, innocent looking girl to her apartment asking for donations for the local farm workers. She wasn't 'innocent' at all. She went onto steal Paulette Cooper's stationary and it was subsequently used to frame her.

Martin, you are obviously much more informed than a lot of us with regards to the Co$ and their practices, etc. and I'm not attempting to over amplify the seriousness of it or cause any undue paranoia. I have enormous respect for you and your knowledge.

Perhaps though, because I'm from the States where their 'power' is truly formidable, (much more so than it is here) I might be projecting some of my own fears/worries, mainly due to what has happened to my brother, which is no light thing.
Although his charges have been dropped (not by the Co$ but by the State prosecution's office) it means that the Co$ have stepped up their game on him, basically because they were bitch-slapped when his charges were dropped as they wanted to make him THE example as to why you shouldn't mess with them.

He continues to be under surveillance: he's followed on a daily basis, photographed by their agents hiding in bushes, etc. he can't even leave his cat outside anymore as they killed one of his other cats, and because I've been identified as his sister, I'm now under their radar too. They are, in fact, building a dossier on him should he ever get arrested and hauled into court, where they'll bring out as much info on him that they might have collected and/or manufactured to make him look as as undesirable as possible. Hell, he won't even take a risk by jaywalking at the moment.
I think perhaps its understandable as to why I might be acting a little (over?) cautiously?! ;)

I do still maintain, though, that people over here on these forums and at the protests be vigilant and careful with regards to maintaining their anonymity and be careful about what is shared within their posts. This is something I firmly believe and this is something I don't think I'm being overly cautious or frivolous about.

PS: do you think that a Scientologist would be "allowed" to say that L Ron was a 'MENTALIST" instead of a 'drug addict'?! LOL :P ;)