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anonogoose - July 15, 2008 10:53 PM (GMT)
suits or gtfo

ScudMuffin - July 16, 2008 05:55 AM (GMT)
black jeans, white shirt and red or black tie.


anonsrus - July 16, 2008 07:09 AM (GMT)
Seconding, suits or gtfo.

At least something semi-formal.

Falco - July 16, 2008 07:43 AM (GMT)
May be too hot for a full suit, but without the jacket, I agree with this.

anonymitts - July 16, 2008 10:02 AM (GMT)
yeah, and you're really gonna stop me wearing what the fuck I want lol :P

anonsrus - July 16, 2008 10:06 AM (GMT)
You'd be surprised. :D

Swifty - July 16, 2008 10:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (anonymitts @ Jul 16 2008, 11:02 AM)
yeah, and you're really gonna stop me wearing what the fuck I want lol :P

^^^ this

DaftHats - July 16, 2008 10:18 AM (GMT)
Can't afford femsuit, too shy for bikini. Could make coat from tinfoil to ward off Scilon deathrays. :P

Saryad - July 16, 2008 10:24 AM (GMT)
V-masks, tailcoats and top hats :)

anonymitts - July 16, 2008 10:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (anonsrus @ Jul 16 2008, 10:06 AM)
You'd be surprised. :D

ooh, kinky!

over9000 - July 16, 2008 10:34 AM (GMT)
Suits <33
Even femanons can wear something formal; black/grey skirt, white blouse, black/grey cardigan and nick someone's tie.
Simple.
We should try and make an effort atleast.

Saryad - July 16, 2008 11:22 AM (GMT)
Suits + masks + young people = Really wierd
Really wierd = attention
Attention = B)

zabi - July 17, 2008 09:14 PM (GMT)
Thirding, suits or gtfo.

Jenkum - July 17, 2008 10:27 PM (GMT)
Luckily, I Have a Suit, but depending on the weather decides if i come full suit, or just shirt and tie

over9000 - July 18, 2008 08:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jenkum @ Jul 17 2008, 10:27 PM)
Luckily, I Have a Suit, but depending on the weather decides if i come full suit, or just shirt and tie

^^^
A suit doesn't have to have a blazer, especially if it's hot.
Shirt, tie, smart trousers are fine too.

anonsrus - July 18, 2008 09:12 AM (GMT)
Belaying a suit, at least something formal.

As far as I know, the CoS want to portray us as a load of skanky internet hippie terrorists, and suits are the best way to tell them STFU.

inb4wearingaburqalololol

anonymitts - July 18, 2008 10:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (anonsrus @ Jul 18 2008, 09:12 AM)
Belaying a suit, at least something formal.

As far as I know, the CoS want to portray us as a load of skanky internet hippie terrorists, and suits are the best way to tell them STFU.

inb4wearingaburqalololol

Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness wore suits...

inb4ANYTHING

Swifty - July 18, 2008 10:28 AM (GMT)
what does it matter what people ware, so long as they turn up and show there support and help protest?

you want everyone to ware a suit and V mask?

a few members of brumanon don't ware V masks, are you now going to demand they come with one to look like the rest of us?

rus at the end of last protest you took your mask off, did anyone tell you to put it back on to look more like the rest of us? no

if people don't want to ware a suit then they sound, same as if they don't want to ware a V mask thats up to them.

telling people they have to ware a suit to protest is just going to put them off.

anonsrus - July 18, 2008 10:35 AM (GMT)
inafterangrypost.

The whole idea behind the wearing of suits is to get out of how the CoS want to portray us.

Rather than BAWWWWWWWWW about it, just ignore us and turn up how you want if that's what you're going to do, but don't tell anyone you're going to. It's too late then.

/advicefor"individuals"

Swifty - July 18, 2008 10:40 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (anonsrus @ Jul 18 2008, 11:35 AM)
inafterangrypost.

The whole idea behind the wearing of suits is to get out of how the CoS want to portray us.

Rather than BAWWWWWWWWW about it, just ignore us and turn up how you want if that's what you're going to do, but don't tell anyone you're going to. It's too late then.

/advicefor"individuals"

inafteraragontpost

the CO$ will portray us how ever they want, saying a suit will change that is just stupid

the Co$ want to say we are terrorists,terrorists can ware a suit so saying that as a argument is just ignorant.

you also ignored my point on the V mask? best way to show were not anonymous terrorists is to not ware them? but that would be pointless as the who point of anon is the anon part.

so how about rather that bawwwwwwwing at someone for being individual you STFU?

/advice for "not beeing a sheep"

anonymitts - July 18, 2008 10:42 AM (GMT)
take it #outside, ladies!

anonsrus - July 18, 2008 10:44 AM (GMT)
Agreed. Pointless argument is pointless. Neither of us is going to back down.

[Also: I chose to remove my mask due to discomfort.]

Swifty - July 18, 2008 10:45 AM (GMT)
no we both have diffnt points of view, and nther are gona change them

anonsrus - July 18, 2008 10:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Swifty @ Jul 18 2008, 10:45 AM)
no we both have diffnt points of view, and nther are gona change them

Which is exactly what I just said.

Falco - July 18, 2008 10:48 AM (GMT)
It's not so much how the Co$ portray us as how the public views us. While yes, the Co$ may still call us terrorists, the image of a unified crowd of people would help to dispel that notion in the publics eyes.

Also, it was not mentioned that everyone should wear V Masks, you were the one that brought that one up here Swifty.

Last time around, the majority of people just turned up in casual wear - I think the idea behind it this time is to try and get that feeling of unity back into Anon - have to admit, the sight of a crowd all looking virtually the same would be an impressive sight.


Either way, no-one is saying this is compulsory. The choice, at the end of the day, remains the individuals.

Swifty - July 18, 2008 10:50 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Falco @ Jul 18 2008, 11:48 AM)
Also, it was not mentioned that everyone should wear V Masks, you were the one that brought that one up here Swifty.

my point on that is if u want eveyone to ware a suit to all look the same, then by that point u want eveony to ware a V mask to look the same

Falco - July 18, 2008 10:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Swifty @ Jul 18 2008, 11:50 AM)
QUOTE (Falco @ Jul 18 2008, 11:48 AM)
Also, it was not mentioned that everyone should wear V Masks, you were the one that brought that one up here Swifty.

my point on that is if u want eveyone to ware a suit to all look the same, then by that point u want eveony to ware a V mask to look the same

Not so much the same, but smart/formal.

Swifty - July 18, 2008 10:53 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Falco @ Jul 18 2008, 11:52 AM)
QUOTE (Swifty @ Jul 18 2008, 11:50 AM)
QUOTE (Falco @ Jul 18 2008, 11:48 AM)
Also, it was not mentioned that everyone should wear V Masks, you were the one that brought that one up here Swifty.

my point on that is if u want eveyone to ware a suit to all look the same, then by that point u want eveony to ware a V mask to look the same

Not so much the same, but smart/formal.

so why say a sute, u can look formal without a suit, and look smart without the need to ware a shit/tie

Falco - July 18, 2008 10:56 AM (GMT)
The suit, because, as you can see above, it's became somewhat of a logo of Anon, and when someone thinks of a suit, they generally also think "smart" or "formal". Shirt and tie are the next step down from that really, and again, it suggests looknig smart.

Swifty - July 18, 2008 10:58 AM (GMT)
but you can look smart without them.

and as iv said, i think people should come how they feel most comfortable, that way they will be more relaxed when talking to members of the public

anonsrus - July 18, 2008 11:00 AM (GMT)
Suits are surprisingly comfortable. There's a reason that practically everyone used to wear them until recently.

Falco - July 18, 2008 11:01 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Swifty)
and as iv said, i think people should come how they feel most comfortable, that way they will be more relaxed when talking to members of the public


QUOTE (Falco)
Either way, no-one is saying this is compulsory. The choice, at the end of the day, remains the individuals.

Rianon - July 18, 2008 02:18 PM (GMT)
I dont think it really matters as long as you get the point across tbh

:rolleyes:

anonogoose - July 18, 2008 03:27 PM (GMT)
I'll tackle the V-mask issue, Swifty.

The V-masks are an issue of practicality; if you don't want to get Fair Gamed by Wrapson & Co, then you cover up your face. V-masks afford an opportunity to look pretty cool at the same time. It also has connotations to the idea of the common man standing up to oppression (Guy Fawkes; V for Vendetta, etc).

Covering your face, however, is the primary aim of the V-mask. Anything else is nifty embellishment.

The suits are a similar issue of practicality. They are the best way of appearing, as has been said, sophisticated, educated and informed - in other words the exact opposite of what the Co$ portray us as. Furthermore, to the public, we look like the unified majority we represent. This is neccessary. If we look like a bunch of teenagers dicking around, we won't achieve our aims.

Now, as 9k said, you don't need a suit to look formal. It can just be a shirt/tie/jeans. It's the overall impression that matters. The 'suits or gtfo' title, I admit, was a little obstinate.

Neglecting the formal wear, in my view, is the same as neglecting the mask. Both are practicalities required to achieve our end of bringing the Co$' true activities kicking and screaming into the public light. You can go without them at the detriment of your own personal effectiveness to the cause; if you're without a mask, you're liable to be tracked down, and thus a chink in our armour. If you're without formal attire, you're a liability in the sense of making us look less professional.

tl;dr - suits or gtfo

over9000 - July 18, 2008 03:32 PM (GMT)
Well put 'goose.

ALSO, suits = sexy. :3

anonymitts - July 18, 2008 03:59 PM (GMT)
Ah, peer pressure. You're not my peers, I don't feel pressure. Mitts wears what he wants :lol:

325365 - July 18, 2008 06:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (anonogoose @ Jul 18 2008, 03:27 PM)
I'll tackle the V-mask issue, Swifty.

The V-masks are an issue of practicality; if you don't want to get Fair Gamed by Wrapson & Co, then you cover up your face. V-masks afford an opportunity to look pretty cool at the same time. It also has connotations to the idea of the common man standing up to oppression (Guy Fawkes; V for Vendetta, etc).

Covering your face, however, is the primary aim of the V-mask. Anything else is nifty embellishment.

The suits are a similar issue of practicality. They are the best way of appearing, as has been said, sophisticated, educated and informed - in other words the exact opposite of what the Co$ portray us as. Furthermore, to the public, we look like the unified majority we represent. This is neccessary. If we look like a bunch of teenagers dicking around, we won't achieve our aims.

Now, as 9k said, you don't need a suit to look formal. It can just be a shirt/tie/jeans. It's the overall impression that matters. The 'suits or gtfo' title, I admit, was a little obstinate.

Neglecting the formal wear, in my view, is the same as neglecting the mask. Both are practicalities required to achieve our end of bringing the Co$' true activities kicking and screaming into the public light. You can go without them at the detriment of your own personal effectiveness to the cause; if you're without a mask, you're liable to be tracked down, and thus a chink in our armour. If you're without formal attire, you're a liability in the sense of making us look less professional.

tl;dr - suits or gtfo

You fail to realize and neglect one point:

QUOTE (anonogoose @ Jul 18 2008, 03:27 PM)
"If we look like a bunch of teenagers dicking around, we won't achieve our aims."


Teenagers dicking around in formal wear, are STILL just teenagers dicking around, except in formal wear.

Doesn't change a thing. Except your looks. Certainly doesn't change character, which seems to be what you are aiming for, from what I take.

Your only justified claim is the "unified" bit, other than that, NONE of it is "necessecary" and simply makes oneself and the like seem shallow (in that respect anyway). Basing people on looks, instead of character and integrity.

You do realize that that most criminals, well top notch ones e.g. Mafia, for one, dress in so called "sophisticated" wear etc. etc. Simply changed appearance. Nothing more. Time and time again. They still were heartless scum and they still are. Scifags wear suits, doesn't change a thing. They still are ignorant heartless scum.

So it could be argued that people portray people who wear suits as scum as well.

What seems to be more your issue is the dickery, but you are losing focus by doing so and beating around the bush on the issue, instead of raising your concern head on. Possibly not done so in fear of retaliation, as anonymous does as anonymous wishes.

And that is my 2cents.

anonsrus - July 18, 2008 06:23 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (325365 @ Jul 18 2008, 06:19 PM)
QUOTE (anonogoose @ Jul 18 2008, 03:27 PM)
I'll tackle the V-mask issue, Swifty.

The V-masks are an issue of practicality; if you don't want to get Fair Gamed by Wrapson & Co, then you cover up your face. V-masks afford an opportunity to look pretty cool at the same time. It also has connotations to the idea of the common man standing up to oppression (Guy Fawkes; V for Vendetta, etc).

Covering your face, however, is the primary aim of the V-mask. Anything else is nifty embellishment.

The suits are a similar issue of practicality. They are the best way of appearing, as has been said, sophisticated, educated and informed - in other words the exact opposite of what the Co$ portray us as. Furthermore, to the public, we look like the unified majority we represent. This is neccessary. If we look like a bunch of teenagers dicking around, we won't achieve our aims.

Now, as 9k said, you don't need a suit to look formal. It can just be a shirt/tie/jeans. It's the overall impression that matters. The 'suits or gtfo' title, I admit, was a little obstinate.

Neglecting the formal wear, in my view, is the same as neglecting the mask. Both are practicalities required to achieve our end of bringing the Co$' true activities kicking and screaming into the public light. You can go without them at the detriment of your own personal effectiveness to the cause; if you're without a mask, you're liable to be tracked down, and thus a chink in our armour. If you're without formal attire, you're a liability in the sense of making us look less professional.

tl;dr - suits or gtfo

You fail to realize and neglect one point:

"If we look like a bunch of teenagers dicking around, we won't achieve our aims."

Teenagers dicking around in formal wear, are STILL just teenagers dicking around, except in formal wear.

Doesn't change a thing. Except your looks. Certainly doesn't change character, which seems to be what you are aiming for, from what I take.

Your only justified claim is the "unified" bit, other than that, NONE of it is "necessecary" and simply makes oneself and the like seem shallow (in that respect anyway). Basing people on looks, instead of character and integrity.

You do realize that that most criminals, well top notch ones e.g. Mafia, for one, dress in so called "sophisticated" wear etc. etc. Simply changed appearance. Nothing more. Time and time again. They still were heartless scum and they still are. Scifags wear suits, doesn't change a thing. They still are ignorant heartless scum.

So it could be argued that people portray people who wear suits as scum as well.

What seems to be more your issue is the dickery, but you are losing focus by doing so and beating around the bush on the issue, instead of raising your concern head on. Possibly not done so in fear of retaliation, as anonymous does as anonymous wishes.

And that is my 2cents.

Casual wear + masks = can be seen as dicking around.
Formal wear + masks = less likely to be seen as dicking around.


We're not dicking around.

Falco - July 18, 2008 06:24 PM (GMT)
Also, if someone is in a suit and a mask, there is no easy way to tell if they're a teenager or not.

Swifty - July 18, 2008 06:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Falco @ Jul 18 2008, 07:24 PM)
Also, if someone is in a suit and a mask, there is no easy way to tell if they're a teenager or not.

but you look so young




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