As some of us found out there is a supposed address in mosely which is the scifags want to change into a CoS building.

I would be willing to pop over that way one weekend/after work and see what is going on at and around the address, hand out fliers, knock on doors raise awareness and survey opinions

( You can tell I've done this shit before can't you :/ )

So mah point is this, clearly I would not be doing it alone ( might have 2 others i can conscript into doing this with me ) I am generally looking for comments, Yays or No Wais really.

Cheers

EDIT: My compatriots have confirmed, this would be a suit/mask affair, oh and we don't live within a 20 mile radius of Brum, so we are not too concerned about CoS following us, not the way I drive anyway lulz.

I believe I could lend some time...

Assuming I can spare it.

However, knocking on people's doors, masked, may not give us the friendliest responses.

I completely agree, but I think in this case it would be worth the potential risk of getting a negative reaction.

It also re-inforces Anon in peoples minds, if we deal with them in a professional, calm and friendly manner then any subvertive counterattacks by CoS would be minimised.

Additional thought, in the other thread there is mention of psychiatric and other sort of medical buildings nearby, we should also raise awareness of this to them directly. So they know what they are dealing with, it might actually raise support much quicker.

Good idea, but.. the masked house to house part is gonna be an epic fail with police involved. Really, if someone knocked on my door, masked and said "Can i have a minute of your time to..."

I would throw my cat at them! (I've trained her well, she's a killer.) Suits are a win, masks no.. perhaps substitute masks for shades?

Perhaps just post stuff through letterboxes then?

I think that might be the better idea, swapping masks for shades would lose effect.

I also quite like the idea of a seen but not heard approach.

If I saw someone walking up my path wearing a mask, I would be very scared. If an elderly person saw someone walking up their path in a mask they would call 999 first and ask questions later.

I think that wearing masks while approaching peoples houses is an epic fail.

As the scilons do not have a presence in the area yet, shades, and a hat to disguise your hair would be fine. by the time you have leafleted the nearby area you could be in and out within an hour, not enough time for them to send anyone with a camera even if they do get wind of it.

Arrange the date, time and meeting place by PM's once there are enough volunteers and you should be safe.

I can see alot of merit in your thoughts and I do agree, but I still think, soley on the effects value alone that masks is the only way we can go.

Because when it comes down to it in the end, we want people to recognise us as Anonymous rather than some dudes, in shades, that happened to come by and put shit in my mail box.

I still think masks are a bad idea for this particular operation but, if you are committed to the idea of masks, I'd suggest:

1: non threatening masks, maybe half masks
2; hold the bunch of leaflets in your hand so it's clear you are just delivering leaflets

I agree with the leaflets in the hands, it should allow anyone looking out of the window to instantly determine the intentions of the 'dodgy masked person' on their garden.

However, I think, where possible, masks should be worn - the V masks in particular seem to have become somewhat of a trademark for Anonymous. If not V, then a suit/smart attire with a half mask would be my recommendation.

I wouldn't say commited, as I am more than happy for any of my ideas to be shot down all I'm saying is at this time the V mask is the icon of Anon in the media

I don't think that Mr & Mrs Average of Moseley are yet aware of our media presence and would be more likely to associate masked people with bank robbers than with anonymous.

I generally throw that stuff away. Its just junk mail to me, and I would think a lot of people think so too.

Write to the local councillor (Martin Mullaney) explaining the CoS views on psychiatry (can someone confirm if uffculme clinic is a psychotherapy clinic?), their views on children (that by the age of 6 they are "responsible" enough because of the millions of years old thetans in them) and how they treat grieving elderly people (Harriet Baker in the US, on theunfunnytruth video on ymntd.com)

Hit the high street with flyers etc. We'd have to cull the memes here to get as many locals on side as possible. Basically galvanise people against the CoS in such a way that if they did get the place they wouldnt get anyone from the local area (plus we could protest outside the place as well)

Moseley has a high street now!? :P

Right-o that sounds more feasible, I will need to consult my friends on this one, see if they are willing to do Q&A sort of crap, I am considering popping down to Moseley and confirm if that building matches the building on the letterhead.

knocking on strangers doors in masks is nowhere near sparta, its just plain madness. epic epic fail. you're asking to be arrested. people are generally very savvy and anyone knocking on the door should be asked for photo-ID.

I sadly agree. Masks and people's front doors are unlikely to be good.

But we don't want to be going unmasked now, do we?

What if we just flyer in masks?

QFT, thats the essence of my problem, as Anon we must represent the V mask imho

If the guys planning on doing this are so set on wearing masks... Then it can't be done.

Masks will not go down well at all. I for one would not stand with my front door open while 2 or 3 people in masks try to tell me how crazy some church is. And im over 6ft tall, so i don't think a little old dear of a granny would even open the door before calling the 'feds'.

Even going up to peoples front doors to post fliers with masks on would be a bit of a no no.

Well we will have to consider it, but it looks like masks may be out for leafletting and for house to house Q&A.

Thanks for your comments :)

Face to face (in a sense) is always better than just random flyers.

On the streets, informing the public in the flesh is the best method. If we want to go house to house, wear an Anonymous badge or something (And start with "We aren't here to sell you anything or ask you to take a survey, just to inform you about the CoS ...) I agree that a mask will intimidate residents in house to house mode; could we have a largish protest/public information event on the high street and at the same time unmasked anon going round the local area? This would have the benefit that the scilons would most likely go for the large crowd, and if there were scilons in the local area the unmasked anon could retreat to the "main" protest quite quickly.

the problem with going door to door in suits with nametags is that people will think you're mormons, lol.

Hahaha, quite true!

:) I didn't mean with the "Hi my name is Anonymous", I kinda meant the suit with barcode as a badge :P

I bet EPIC (lol yes epic) skatepark would let us leave some fliers with them. We could also try the local pubs in the area. Maybe they would let us leave some leaflets or literature with them.

Also, we should take advantage of the local Christian and Muslim community's. They'll almost certainly be on our side.

Right.

Firstly, what was Written on the Hand of Knowledge-
http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh6/Scr...nt=100_1375.jpg

Secondly, my interperetation on Googlemaps.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Russell+Rd...oi=map&ct=title

It may not be precisely correct, but if we aim for that area it'll do the most good and accurate.

Yes! Get the pubs, the skate parks, whatever. I think a leafletting campaign is the best thing for the area as well, it's not so important that we speak to people, just that we let them know about the 'church'. The vast majority of people will be against it. I can already sense the win. And frankly, I will not allow a new church to form there. No.

We can also have a mini protest in Moseley Village. I know people who'd be up for it normally, as well as anon, and even the local council representitives so we'd get combined might, and lots of exposure.

Whenever anyone feels up for the beginnings of a flier campaign, let me know. I might start spreading the muck anyway on my own but more people equals more utter pwnage.

Unless we utterly f*ck up here, we can probably make the biggest difference out of many anon worldwide. They will NOT get any property in Moseley, nor will their puppet organisations.

I think we need signatures from local residents that we can show to the council and the local papers. This would work better than a protest, because there are no Scientologists in the area yet, so a protest would be wasted energy.

Nah, it wouldn't be a waste at all... you'd get coverage over the main church and you'd get tonnes of people wanting to know why we were protesting.

But you're right, I think there's better ways we can expend our energy. I just reckon we should keep it in mind as I'm almost certain that we'd get huge support from the locals, and rousings are what we need.

'till then, let us plan our plans.

It's slightly further down the road I think;
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&h...9f0209bf3e63087

Maybe we should leaflet the area with something like "Anon will be at <somewhere> on <date> answering any questions you may have about the CoS" (inlucding any websites/info as well), then go for a protest/Q&A session in moseley village?

Only ever driven through it accidentally, so by "high street" I meant anywhere with the main row of shops/high foot traffic. :P

Ok, this is begining to expand alot more than I first expected and I hate to suddenly put a damper on things, but we really really need confirmation on facts before we do anything. Otherwise we will discredit anonymous completely.

I will be going over there, today, to take pics, they will be up here later.

Cheers for now.

Dude!!! Enturb is back up!!!

(Can't log in though :()

You will need to reset your password as they weren't able to transfer over the password files.

Again, even if it turns out that they're not going to bother, there's no way it could turn against us.

For instance, if it turns out they're not going to buy it there due to the fact that they know they'd fail, that's an instant win for us, as we want to stop them spreading. Even if it turns out it was just an enquiry, we're not going to come off any worse if we send out leaflets saying "be aware that scientologist have expressed interest in property in your area" or something, and not only that, but people will want to find out more about why scientology is bad, thus gaining more exposure and negative press against them.

Nope, I cannot see anything that puts a dampener on this. We can't balls it up unless we're truly cretinous about it.

Ok, the Revised Plan of Action :P

On an unspecified date, post Easter weekend. The Anons involved will arrive at a designated meeting point. Appear in suits, and don glasses.

We will leaflet drop the area directly surrounding the "Church-to-be"

When we have run out of leaflets, or completed our rounds, we will then head to the Village Centre and set up shop, we will then don masks or glasses depending on preference. Where we will do Q&A.

This should be a precurser to any sizeable raid. The reason for this, is that I feel just appearing in force with no obvious prepared reason in a small and noncentral location will simply cause more confusion as to our reasons.

Any other comments?

I like this very much. Count me in.

Sounds like a damn fine idea. We'd have to let the council know what we're doing in case we get shuffled on by the police.

It sounds like it might be worth doing a small thing first, just to spread awareness before getting loads of people involved. About 5/10 of us first for Lol Leaflet and maybe chips or something if anyone can be arsed. If we let the fliers and stuff just settle in, then do a protest later on, it might do more good.

Actually, saying that, any number is okay. I'm more thinking of convienience. I can get to moseley without any real trouble so I'm happy to take on the bulk of activities along with anyone else who's willing. The more the merrier frankly, but I don't want people overexerting themselves when we can do the same thing far easier.

I does reckon we should meet in the village, as there's no chance of us getting accosted if we're somewhere obvious. We should bring maps for people who aren't sure or who have crap direction like myself, and sackfuls of fliers. I think scarves, sunglasses and suits will probably do. Then we can split into groups of 3 or whatever and do roads, in a typically awesome fashion.

Good stuff Anongram. I think we're thinking along the same lines here.

Yeah, I'll need a map.

I'm up for it... But concerned about Scilon lurkers...

What if, once we've got a confirmed list of People, we confirm specifics (Time, date & Place) via PM?

I'm up for this too. I'd need a few directions on how to get to Mosely, and a simplified map, as I'm not familiar with the area myself. Not too sure if i'll be able to attend, it will mainly depend on the time and date, so once I know this, I'll let you all know.
And as above, I agree with 1812 - everything should be discussed with those that are going via PMs.

I'll be able to contribute. Just tell me how to get to Moseley and what date (preferrably not 26th March, I has dentist)