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DaftHats
Posted: May 29 2008, 10:58 AM





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We can always find some loophole if appeals against this fall through.

If no leaflets, how about stickers? T-shirts with the websites printed on them? Writing down the website in icing on free caek, or the wrapping for caek? SRSLY BIG BANNERS? Ink stamps with Xenu.net on it, so we can print people's hands?
And so on and on. biggrin.gif Balloons is a good idea, but I thought we weren't going to exploit children?
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Falco
Posted: May 29 2008, 11:20 AM


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QUOTE (DaftHats @ May 29 2008, 11:58 AM)
We can always find some loophole if appeals against this fall through.

If no leaflets, how about stickers? T-shirts with the websites printed on them? Writing down the website in icing on free caek, or the wrapping for caek? SRSLY BIG BANNERS? Ink stamps with Xenu.net on it, so we can print people's hands?
And so on and on. biggrin.gif Balloons is a good idea, but I thought we weren't going to exploit children?

Stickers would be a no-go, same laws as leaflets.
T-Shirts, would be allowed.
Cake - need food hygeiene certificate and all that.
Banners, yes, we could.
Ink, I'm not too sure many people would want to be stamped.
And as you said, balloons are a bit too much like exploiting kids.
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ScudMuffin
Posted: May 29 2008, 01:41 PM





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ATM I'd say signs only in the city centre, though we can flyer in brindley place and broad street.

Next protest we should be going down there and flyering the f**k out of it and the bars, pubs and ques.

UPDATE: we are receiving an official map of where we can and can't flyer from the council. There will be an emailed copy attached to the forum, I will also have a hardcopy for the flyer group.

http://forums.enturbulation.org/15-breakin...ications-16190/

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Anon76
Posted: May 29 2008, 06:52 PM


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Very rough draft of an email to PC McCormack

I'm not entirely happy with it myself, so please feel free to chop it about suggest changes, additions or deletions.

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Dear PC McCormack,

I am writing with regards to a number of issues that have arisen following our small scale demonstration at Ethel Street on Wednesday.

PC Wheeler {that was his name right?}approached the members of our group and indicated that significant changes were to be made to the policing policy for future demonstrations. The changes indicated by PC Wheeler were:

1) Banning any the use of megaphones.
2) Banning any of the demonstrators from approaching or directly communicating with anyone connected with the Church of Scientology.
3) Banning the word "Cult" from being used.

With regards to the use of the word "Cult", the Crown Prosecution Service has already ruled in our favour on this issue, following the May 10th demonstration in London. The CPS stated that: "In consultation with the City of London Police, we were asked whether the sign, which read 'Scientology is not a religion it is a dangerous cult', was abusive "Our advice is that it is not abusive or insulting and there is no offensiveness (as opposed to criticism), neither in the idea expressed nor in the mode of expression. No action will be taken against the individual."

PC Wheeler also seemed unaware of our plans to demonstrate on Wednesday despite the fact that one of our group advised you, by telephone, of our plans on the previous day.

In order that there is no confusion at the next demonstration, we would like clarification of the following points:

1) Has there been a change of policy towards the policing of our demonstrations, or are any specific restrictions planned that were not in place on previous demonstrations?

2) If so, what are the changes and what is the reason for this change of policy?

Yours Sincerely,
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ScudMuffin
Posted: May 29 2008, 07:15 PM





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Hold off, it's being processed at the moment. Don't send the email yet. I am in phone contact. They know about the incident as I've reported it.
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Necrosis
Posted: May 29 2008, 08:36 PM


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Fuck man...The CoS seems like they have the police in their pocket. It's just an uphill struggle. But theres no way im quitting on the protests. We have to stick it out and overcome this bullshit.
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Anon76
Posted: May 29 2008, 09:36 PM


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QUOTE (Necrosis @ May 29 2008, 08:36 PM)
Fuck man...The CoS seems like they have the police in their pocket. It's just an uphill struggle. But theres no way im quitting on the protests. We have to stick it out and overcome this bullshit.

Exactly, the scilons may think they have the police in their pocket but we have the LAW on our side.

There is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes to get these issues resolved. We are having a major impact on them and that's why they are resorting to these measures.

The cult is crumbling, we just need to keep the pressure up.

They recently paid £4.5million for their new Moseley building.

This week was "Bookathon" week, where they tried to sell as many books as possible, they sold a grand total of 22 books.

That doesn't even pay for the front door of their new building. Their position is not sustainable.

We just have to do one thing... Don't give up!
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DaftHats
Posted: May 29 2008, 09:39 PM





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They're obviously hoping we'll just give up under all these restrictions.

Also, I agree with what Anon76 said! They're kicking up a fuss now that they've realised that their cult is making losses.
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anon1812
Posted: May 30 2008, 04:15 PM


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WTF?!?!

Do I understand correctly that, Despite the crown Prosecution service's overthrowing the case against Epic nose Guy, Birmingham Police are banning us from using "cult"???

Bugger giving up, this makes me want to protest MOAR (after exams).
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ScudMuffin
Posted: May 30 2008, 05:45 PM





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They can't ban the word. We were informed by an officer if we used it then people would be arrested. We advice against using the word cult, though if you want to we can't stop you if the interpretation is that it is allowed under the HRA.

We know what the legislation is, so we will happily vet cult signs for you.
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Necrosis
Posted: May 30 2008, 06:10 PM


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QUOTE (Anon76 @ May 29 2008, 09:36 PM)
QUOTE (Necrosis @ May 29 2008, 08:36 PM)
Fuck man...The CoS seems like they have the police in their pocket. It's just an uphill struggle. But theres no way im quitting on the protests. We have to stick it out and overcome this bullshit.

Exactly, the scilons may think they have the police in their pocket but we have the LAW on our side.

There is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes to get these issues resolved. We are having a major impact on them and that's why they are resorting to these measures.

The cult is crumbling, we just need to keep the pressure up.

They recently paid £4.5million for their new Moseley building.

This week was "Bookathon" week, where they tried to sell as many books as possible, they sold a grand total of 22 books.

That doesn't even pay for the front door of their new building. Their position is not sustainable.

We just have to do one thing... Don't give up!

Hell yeah! We got em on the run! We gotta move into the kill.
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Helmetanon
Posted: May 30 2008, 07:29 PM


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This is annoying, but that's pretty much all it is. I think the best way to describe it is as an "Embuggerance". We have multiple cases of legal precedent on our side.

That said, the guys who are pursuing this deserve medals. You folks rock.

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This needs to be all over the media. The ENG set british media on fire, to learn they're STILL censoring free speech will fan the flames.



This. Is there any reason why we can't contact the media over this?
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Anon76
Posted: May 30 2008, 07:38 PM


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Quick update:

Fined anons are appealing the fines, updates when we have more info.


I've sent a follow up email to senior figures in the Council Legal dept, see below:
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To: David_Tatlow@birmingham.gov.uk
CC: Mirza_Ahmad@birmingham.gov.uk

Dear Mr Tatlow,

I am writing further to our previous enquiry about the Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act 1995 (Free literature consent scheme).

I understand that Mirza Ahmad, forwarded our enquiry to yourself on May 18th 2008 and as yet we are still awaiting a response.

The matter has now become more urgent as four of our group have now been issued with fixed penalty fines. Can you please respond to the enquiry below as soon as possible in order that we may get this matter resolved swiftly.

Kind Regards,
.....
Birmingham Anonymous.

Copy of original email attached


If this doesn't yield results, I will be writing to:

The Rt Hon Hilary Benn MP, Secretary of State for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs.

The Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act 1995 comes under his area of responsibility.
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Helmetanon
Posted: May 30 2008, 07:46 PM


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as well as them, why not contact various news agencies across the country? After the shenanigans in London, I'm sure they'd be very interested in more of the same.

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How to contact the Guardian, the Observer and guardian.co.uk
Please address any correspondence to:
119 Farringdon Road
London
EC1R 3ER

The switchboard number for the Guardian, the Observer and guardian.co.uk is:

020 7278 2332

Please find specific email addresses for individual desks and departments below - please take care to send queries to the correct destination as there is no guarantee that messages will be forwarded on.

General
Individual staff can be contacted using the following email format:
Firstname.lastname@guardian.co.uk
Firstname.lastname@observer.co.uk


Given that the Gruaniad already ran a series of not particularly flattering articles on the Scilons recently, I'd bet good money that they'd cover this.


http://browse.guardian.co.uk/search?search...h&site=guardian
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ScudMuffin
Posted: May 31 2008, 10:28 PM





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UPDATE!

CHECK ORIGINAL POST!

NEW AND AMAZING INFORMATION!
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